mad_dog Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Να τονίσουμε ότι το rekord ακόμη δεν έχει καταρριφθεί !!! Η πίστα που γίνονται τα rekord είναι η version 20,8km . Ο κλύτερος οδηγός για μένα που πέρασε από τον πλανήτη...έφυγε πολύ νωρίς... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Και ούτε θα καταρριφθεί !!! Why a Nurburgring Record Set in 1983 Will Never Be Beaten On May 28, 1983, a lucky confluence of events allowed for one of the greatest driving performances we'll ever see. Stefan Bellof, a 25-year-old racer from Germany, drove a Porsche 956 around the Nürburgring Nordschliefe in 6:11.13, a record that stands to this day, and one that doesn't look like it'll ever be topped. Owing to construction of the the track's Grand Prix circuit, a bypass was added to the Nordschleife in 1983, shortening the track from 14.2 miles to 12.9 miles. As a result, the 1983 Nurburgring 1000km was held on the 12.9-mile Nordschleife, marking the only time top-level Le Mans cars raced on this configuration. The cars entered in the 1983 1000km were particularly fast–especially the 956, which broke new ground in sports prototypes. It was powered by one of Porsche's familiar turbocharged flat-sixes, this time displacing 2.65 liters and producing at least 620 horsepower, but that's not the only thing that made it quick. The other thing was the 956's ground effect underbody. Ground effect was a Formula One innovation that used clever underbody channels to create previously unheard-of amounts of downforce. The first F1 car with the tech was the Lotus 79, which helped Mario Andretti win the championship in 1978. When it was introduced in 1982, the 956 was one of the first sports cars to use ground effect in a similar way (the Lola T600 and BMW M1/C used ground effect in 1981). Ground effect made the 956 unbelievably fast, but also incredibly tricky on a bumpy, narrow circuit like the Nurburgring. Listen to Bellof's teammate, sports car legend Derek Bell, explain what it was like in period: Bell has to fight to keep the car on the road, especially in the Nurburgring's famous Karussell. To give you an idea of just how fast the 956 was, Bell only ran a 6:41 on this lap. This was just a practice lap, and Bell was saddled with heavy camera equipment, yet it still looks like he's ripping through hyperspace. Watch this video again, then imagine running a lap 30 seconds quicker. Bellof had a couple of things going for him on the day of qualifying–his 956, chassis #007, benefited from new 13-inch wheels at the front and some other small upgrades that gave his car excellent handling. Additionally, the weather on May 28th, 1983 was cold but dry. Bellof's goal was to beat fellow Porsche driver Jochen Mass' 6:16.85 qualifying lap–he went more than five seconds faster. What's more amazing, though, is how much quicker Bellof was than everyone else there that day. Bellof was nearly half a minute faster than Keke Rosberg, the reigning Formula 1 champion at the time, who set a 6:39.52. Third place qualifier Bob Wollek only managed a 6:31.59, while Mass' teammate Jacky Ickx, ran a 6:27.36. "I thought [mine] was a good lap, until I saw the times," Rosberg toldMotor Sport magazine at the race. "I could have gone even faster," Bellof said, per Porsche. "But I made two mistakes. And a 911 briefly got in my way." During the race, Bellof continued to set an unbelievable pace, but it came at a cost. Just six laps into the race, he managed to pull a 36-second lead on Mass, and a two-and-a-half-minute lead on Rosberg. Of course, this went totally against the wishes of Porsche team leader Norbert Singer, who wanted Bellof and Bell to save fuel. Bell's stint in the car shortened their lead, so Bellof set off with a vengeance. Shortly after setting a 6:25.91 lap during the race, Bellof lost control of his 956 and crashed at the Pfianzgarten corner into a barrier at 160 mph. Fortunately, he walked away, but his race was over. Mass and Ickx went on to take the checkered flag. This 1983 race marked the last time cars like this were driven in anger around the Nordschleife. That likely means it's the last time we'll see such quick lap times at the track. Bellof went on to win the 1984 World Sportscar Championship, driving alongside Bell in a Porsche 956, but sadly he was killed in an accident in the 1985 Spa 1000km. At the time, he was one of the most promising drivers in Formula 1. In 2013, the Nurburgring renamed the Pfianzgarten where Bellof crashed to the Stefan Bellof S, in tribute to the record holder. To mark the occasion, Derek Bell took the 956 around the track for a lap. While it's sad that Bellof died before he lived up to his full potential, his Nurburgring record will likely stand for all time as a testament to his prowess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_dog Posted June 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Εδώ να παρατηρήσουμε ότι: Quote Bellof's goal was to beat fellow Porsche driver Jochen Mass' 6:16.85 qualifying lap–he went more than five seconds faster. What's more amazing, though, is how much quicker Bellof was than everyone else there that day. Bellof was nearly half a minute faster than Keke Rosberg, the reigning Formula 1 champion at the time, who set a 6:39.52. Third place qualifier Bob Wollek only managed a 6:31.59, while Mass' teammate Jacky Ickx, ran a 6:27.36. Δηλαδή ο άνθρωπας πολύ μπροστά τότε σαν οδηγός από οποιονδήποτε άλλο τότε οδηγό !!! Για μένα ο οδηγός του αιώνα... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 On 6/1/2018 at 1:28 AM, andre said: Και ούτε θα καταρριφθεί !!! Μεγάλη μπουκιά φάε,μεγάλη κουβέντα μη λες Stefan Bellof R.I.P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John@John Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, andre said: Μεγάλη μπουκιά φάε,μεγάλη κουβέντα μη λες Stefan Bellof R.I.P Τι να μην καταρριφθει?? Με τα κιαλια θα τον κοιτουσε αν ηταν εκει...6:11 με 5:19 ........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_dog Posted June 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 ... Μιλάμε για αυτοκίνητο του 1980 και μετά από 50 χρόνια αφού βγάλανε αυτοκίνητο με 1500 άλογα και όλα ηλεκτρονικά γράψανε χρόνο... Αν ήταν τότε μάγκες οι οδηγοί (και ο Senna) ας γράφανε τέτοιο χρόνο... Kαι το αστείο είναι τα λέτε και τα πιστεύετε... Γατάκια... Δείτε και τι είπε ο οδηγός για τον μέγιστο Bellof !!! And Bernhard has a ton of reverence for the Belgian Bellof, who was killed in 1985 during a race at Spa. When WEC visited Spa in 2015, Bernhard wore a helmet designed in homage to Bellof's. "For me Stefan Bellof is and remains a giant." Bernhard. "Today my respect for his achievement with the technology available back then increased even more." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troffeo Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Καλά μιλάμε είσαι @mad_dog η μεγαλύτερη εμπάθεια, ασχετοσύνη και όλα τα συναφή μαζί!!! Σου εξηγεί ο @andre τους λόγους και εσύ τον χαβά σου, προφανώς λόγω γκεμπελισμού ? (μάλλον σε έχουν "αλλοτριώσει" εκεί πάνω) και προσπαθείς να συγκρίνεις τα καρπούζια με τα πεπόνια!!! Το ίδιο κάνεις σε όλα τα "κολλήματα" σου το κάνεις τώρα και με τον μοναδικό και ΑΞΕΠΕΡΑΣΤΟ Ayrton Senna!!! Προσωπικά ποσώς με ενδιαφέρει η οποιαδήποτε σύγκριση βάζεις, έτσι για να πεις και την χαζομάρα σου, απλά μην νομίζεις ότι έτσι τεκμηριώνεις ή πείθεις κανέναν! Καλός ο Bellof (ΚΑΙ ΟΛΟΙ ΟΙ ΟΔΗΓΟΙ ΠΟΥ ΔΕΝ ΤΟΥΣ ΦΤΑΝΩ ΟΥΤΕ ΣΤΗΝ ΠΑΡΑΝΥΧΙΔΑ ΤΟΥΣ), αλλά για εμένα ΑΣΥΓΚΡΙΤΑ ΚΑΛΥΤΕΡΟΣ ο Senna!!! Αυτό βέβαια ΔΕΝ αφορά κανέναν άλλον εκτός από εμένα, για αυτό και δεν καταλαβαίνω γιατί πετάς μέσα σε παρένθεση την π@π@ρι@ σου. Δεν είναι όλα στην ζωή να τα βγάλουμε και να τα μετρήσουμε και να κερδίσει όποιος την έχει μεγαλύτερη ή περισσότερο δε, όποιος ΝΟΜΙΖΕΙ ότι την έχει μεγαλύτερη! Επίσης το αστείο είναι ότι δεν καταλαβαίνεις όταν συγκρίνεις εποχές και αυτοκίνητα, αφού πρέπει να σου θυμίσω ότι και ο Senna έτρεχε την ίδια εποχή και με τα ίδια (σε εξέλιξη) αυτοκίνητα, λάστιχα, πίστες κλπ. Άσε λοιπόν την προπαγάνδα, χαλάρωσε και τουλάχιστον βλέπε κάνα βιντεάκι, μπάς και μάθεις επιτέλους ότι ο τροχός τελικά είναι … στρογγυλός ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_dog Posted July 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Kαλησπέρα Γιώργο, όπως υποστηρίζεις, για σένα ο Senna ήταν ο καλύτερος όλων. Βέβαια αυτή είναι δική σου τοποθέτηση η οποία είναι σεβαστή. Για μένα ο Bellof τον Senna τον είχε για πλάκα (και πολύ εύκολα μάλιστα). Όπως καταλαβαίνεις αυτή είναι δική μου άποψη (και όπως παρατηρείς δεν αναφέρθηκα σε κανέναν προσωπικά με χαρακτηρισμούς. Εκτός αν πιστεύεις ότι οι χαρακτηρισμοί δίνουν βάση στα λεγόμενά σου και τα ισχυροποιούν). Από εκεί και πέρα το τι θα πει ο καθένας και το πως θα εκφραστεί (στο πλαίσιο πάντα της κοσμιότητας) δεν με ενδιαφέρει, γιατί πολύ απλά η άποψή μου δεν πρόκειται να αλλάξει. Καλησπέρα και να έχουμε καλή εβδομάδα. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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